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  Would You EVER Go Back To Being A Jehovah's Witness?

  by minimus in

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  i could never understand why some people who know the truth about the "truth" ever go back.

  once you understand all the hypocrisy and negatives, i would think it's almost impossible to go back!.

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  I think I would become physically ill if I tried, for some obscure reason, to return to the jw sect.
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  How much money people usually donate to WT ?

  by Bardamu in

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  i grew up in the org and never got baptised, however i was wondering recently about how much money my family and old friends are wasting in all that.

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  i remember of course never talking in amounts, that it was important to give from what you can not what you have etc but i admit i have no clue how much the average witness gives (say in % of their income).. i'm sure it varies greatly, i'd love to hear what you guys have to say..

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  when I was young I was the accounts servant and assigned to deal with the deed of covenant tax arrangement when it was introduced. For non UK members, this is the arrangement whereby a charity can reclame the tax paid by donations on the sum that is pledged to the charity.

  I thought I donated a " reasonable" amount myself. Not too much but not too miserly.

  So I was surprised to find that in a congregation of 100, my personal pledge amounted to 10% of the total.

  I was also surprised at the pledges, or lack of them, from certain personalities in the congrgation.

  I sould say thank you to, them I suppose. It was one step closer to opening my eyes.
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  If the WT is a "money making machine"...who gets the money?

  by NikL in

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  i've seen claims over the years that wt is in the real estate, book publishing business and is a for profit enterprise at it's core.. can those of you that believe this to be the case tell me who benefits from all this wealth?.

  the governing body lives in relatively humble conditions no?.

  i've been curious about this for a while.

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  no car repairs, no health bills, no need to do the ironning,cooking,cleaning etc etc. travel 1st class anywhere in the world. never ever any money worries. never worry about replacing the washing machine,tv,fridge etc etc. never have to do the gardenning yourself. never need to clean your own room. never ever have the hum drum worries that normal folk have. live in a beautiful park.......

  get the picture. a life free from stress for those at the top. maybe they dont live like donald trump but they are financially a lot better of than you and I.
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  The Great October 2016 Invite to the Sunday Meeting campaign ...

  by freddo in

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  well how's it going round your way?

  massive increase of interested ones?

  did you even know it was supposed to be happening?

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  I had, not 1,not 2 but 3 call on me today.all at the same time.

  would you like to come to our christian meeting on sunday says they.

  no thanks says I, and quickly adds have a nice day, and walked away.

  I was quite pleased with myself. For the first time I managed to not waste my time trying to convince them.

  Let them work it out on their own, like I did.
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  Disfellowhsipped for 7 years...

  by HereIgo in

  1. jw
  2. experiences

  i remember around 2009, there was a scandal going on involving 2 families in my cong where the husband in one family was having an affair with the wife of the other family.

  this resulted in pregnancy and subsequent disfellowshipping.

  what was interesting to me though was a comment made by a co from the platform.

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  seeing that armageddon is coming VERY soon, certainly less than in 7 years,

  I suppose what he was really trying to say was "youve had it buster"
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  6 Ways Religion Does More Bad Than Good

  by jean-luc picard in

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  "most british people think religion causes more harm than good according to a survey commissioned by the huffington post.

  surprisingly, even among those who describe themselves as “very religious” 20 percent say that religion is harmful to society.

  for that we can probably thank the internet, which broadcasts everything from isis beheadings, to stories about catholic hospitals denying care to miscarrying women, to lists of wild and weird religious beliefs, to articles about psychological harms from bible-believing christianity.".

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  6. Religions seek power.Think corporate personhood. Religions are man-made institutions, just like for-profit corporations are. And like any corporation, to survive and grow a religion must find a way to build power and wealth and compete for market share.

  
  

  Sounds familiar?

  
  
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  6 Ways Religion Does More Bad Than Good

  by jean-luc picard in

  1. jw
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  "most british people think religion causes more harm than good according to a survey commissioned by the huffington post.

  surprisingly, even among those who describe themselves as “very religious” 20 percent say that religion is harmful to society.

  for that we can probably thank the internet, which broadcasts everything from isis beheadings, to stories about catholic hospitals denying care to miscarrying women, to lists of wild and weird religious beliefs, to articles about psychological harms from bible-believing christianity.".

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  "Most British people think religion causes more harm than good according to a survey commissioned by the Huffington Post. Surprisingly, even among those who describe themselves as “very religious” 20 percent say that religion is harmful to society. For that we can probably thank the internet, which broadcasts everything from Isis beheadings, to stories about Catholic hospitals denying care to miscarrying women, to lists of wild and weird religious beliefs, to articles about psychological harms from Bible-believing Christianity."

  Read the rest of the article here: http://www.alternet.org/belief/6-ways-religion-does-more-bad-good

  I found it interesting. It fits the borg to a 'T' but also so many other religions.
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  New York Times article Dec 31 2015

  by Gayle in

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  http://www.nytimes.com/2016/01/01/nyregion/stalled-brooklyn-park-exposes-rift-with-religious-group.html?_r=0.

  jehovahs witnesses have been criticized by community leaders for not fixing up parks in dumbo, brooklyn, as promised.

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  they will justify, to the rank and file, that it is pointless giving money back to a doomed world, and that this critisism is from the devil.................

  and the rank and file will swallow it whole.

  "jehovahs organisation"is always right. Difficult for us to counter their auguments to those who really need it, ie to those within the borg.
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  interesting hospital encounter

  by stan livedeath in

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  my 94 year old jw dad is now in hospital--i visit him every day.. in the opposite corner of the ward were a group of visitors to an oldish chap.

  my dub-dar caught words like kingdom hall and watchtower from the rather loud voiced woman i took to be the patients wife.

  she also mentioned a dub by name ive known for 40+years--so i guessed they are in the local congregation to my dad.. as i was leaving--the woman said to me--"what a loving --dutiful son i am.

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  ,amusing stan. my mum is in a care home now.

  she never got visitors at home, but now she is in the home she gets visitors regularly. oh, and they make sure to tell everyone that they are jehooovahs witnesses too.

  So much for not letting your right hand know what the left hands doing. They often go in to see her when they are on the work "in the area". I wonder why.
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  Warwick Polution

  by scotoma in

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  has there been any discussion about why jehovah would guide his people to a polluted property to build their world headquarters?

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  ......so they are looking to get money out of it?